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Sunday, August 15, 2021

Noah’s Faith; Evil Cain; Antediluvian Children of God; Our Ordained Path

Why was Noah righteous? This is a great question, but our Bible tells us very little about the antediluvians. Therefore we will read through a few historical books and gain some idea of the world that Noah was born into. Similar to Sodom, the pre-deluge earth was corrupted by sin. Yet Yahweh rescued Noah and his family out of the destruction. While Noah was righteous, we see that his righteousness came from the words of his forefathers. Even though the times were dark, Noah accepted the rhēma coming from the Elohim. He then became loyal to the rhēma that the Elohim gave him. It is said that Noah did everything he was ordained to do. As we saw last week, Lot was surrounded by ungodly people for many years. He was rescued by Abraham, but went back into Sodom. Yet Lot did not do the things that the people of Sodom did. He was hospitable and kind. Before Noah was even born the antediluvian age was filled with evil events and evil people. It is hard to imagine that as soon as the adam sinned, the whole generation was filled with sin. It is possible that our enemy does not want us to know what was happening before the flood destroyed the world because we might notice those same sins being committed in our time. Noah was the start of all righteous men, meaning that Noah was righteous because of his faith and that righteousness started the next age, the post deluge. 

2Es 3:11  Nevertheless one of them thou leftest, namely, Noah with his household, of whom came all righteous men.


As we read this historical account of the pre-flood era, we should keep in mind that there was no written law or commands from Yahweh. Enoch started teaching the precepts of Yahweh a bit before the flood. The people from Cain’s family indulged in many lusts and enticed Seth’s heirs away from Yahweh.


Forgotten Books of Eden; The Second Book of Adam and Eve XI:1 AFTER the death of Adam and of Eve, Seth severed his children, and his children's children, from Cain's children. Cain and his seed went down and dwelt westward, below the place where he had killed his brother Abel.

2 But Seth and his children, dwelt northwards upon the mountain of the Cave of Treasures, in order to be near to their father Adam.

3 And Seth the elder, tall and good, with a fine soul, and of a strong mind, stood at the head of his people; and tended them in innocence, penitence, and meekness, and did not allow one of them to go down to Cain's children.

4 But because of their own purity, they were named "Children of God," and they were with God, instead of the hosts of angels who fell; for they continued in praises to God, and in singing psalms unto Him, in their cave--the Cave of Treasures.


The first thing to note here is that after the adam and Eve died, Seth was the head of his family. Seth severed the relationship of his children with Cain’s children. Seth and his children went north and dwelt in the mountains, while Cain and his children dwelt in the plains. Seth’s children are named “Children of God” because they worshipped the Elohim. We will see shortly what Cain’s family was doing. 


Here is a bit of history on Cain.

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2011/01/ive-never-been-content-with-basics-of.html

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2019/11/curses-calling-down-doom-to-curse-or.html


Forgotten Books of Eden; The Second Book of Adam and Eve XX:1 AFTER Cain had gone down to the land of dark soil, and his children had multiplied therein, there was one of them, whose name was Genun, son of Lamech the blind who slew Cain.

2 But as to this Genun, Satan came into him in his childhood; and he made sundry trumpets and horns, and string instruments, cymbals and psalteries, and lyres and harps, and flutes; and he played on them at all times and at every hour.

3 And when he played on them, Satan came into them, so that from among them were heard beautiful and sweet sounds, that ravished the heart.

4 Then he gathered companies upon companies to play on them; and when they played, it pleased well the children of Cain, who inflamed themselves with sin among themselves, and burnt as with fire; while Satan inflamed their hearts, one with another, and increased lust among them.

5 Satan also taught Genun to bring strong drink out of corn; and this Genun used to bring together companies upon companies in drink-houses; and brought into their hands all manner of fruits and flowers; and they drank together.

6 Thus did this Genun multiply sin exceedingly; he also acted with pride, and taught the children of Cain to commit all manner of the grossest wickedness, which they knew not; and put them up to manifold doings which they knew not before.

7 Then Satan, when he saw that they yielded to Genun and hearkened to him in every thing he told them, rejoiced greatly, increased Genun's understanding, until he took iron and with it made weapons of war.

8 Then when they were drunk, hatred and murder increased among them; one man used violence against another to teach him evil taking his children and defiling them before him.

9 And when men saw they were overcome, and saw others that were not overpowered, those who were beaten came to Genun, took refuge with him, and he made them his confederates.

10 Then sin increased among them greatly; until a man married his own sister, or daughter, or mother, and others; or the daughter of his father's sister, so that there was no more distinction of relationship, and they no longer knew what is iniquity; but did wickedly, and the earth was defiled with sin, and they angered God the Judge, who had created them.

11 But Genun gathered together companies upon companies, that played on horns and on all the other instruments we have already mentioned, at the foot of the Holy Mountain; and they did so in order that the children of Seth who were on the Holy Mountain should hear it.


Notice the children of Seth were residing on the Holy Mountain. The children of Seth were living in their region until the Watchers fell, procreating a mixed genos with the children of Cain. They then went up the mountains. The children of Cain attempted to entice the children of Seth to join them. It is interesting that Satanas came into Genun in his childhood. This suggests a childhood event that opened Genun up to satanic influence. It is no different then we see today. Satanas then uses music to entice people to follow. Once people enjoy themselves they wanted more, and Satanas was able to enter into them, causing them to lust more and more. Add alcohol and weapons and then voilà, our world today.


The Forgotten Books of Eden; The Second Book of Adam and Eve XX:12 But when the children of Seth heard the noise, they wondered, and came by companies, and stood on the top of the mountain to look at those below; and they did thus a whole year.

13 When, at the end of that year, Genun saw that they were being won over to him little by little, Satan entered into him, and taught him to make dyeing-stuffs for garments of divers patterns, and made him understand how to dye crimson and purple and what not.

14 And the sons of Cain who wrought all this, and shone in beauty and gorgeous apparel, gathered together at the foot of the mountain in splendour, with horns and gorgeous dresses, and horse races, committing all manner of abominations.

15 Meanwhile the children of Seth, who were on the Holy Mountain, prayed and praised God, in the place of the hosts of angels who had fallen; wherefore God had called them "angels," because He rejoiced over them greatly.


This tells us that the timing of the enticement from the children of Cain was after the fall of the Watchers. The children of Seth attempted to isolate themselves from the perverted genos, the heirs of the Nephilim. The Elohim call the children of Seth “angels” because they did what the angels should have been doing, worship. The children of Cain then adorned themselves with colorful clothes and jewelry then played instruments, had horse races, and did other things that looked like fun, all so that the children of Seth would come down from the mountains. 


The Forgotten Books of Eden; The Second Book of Adam and Eve XX:16 But after this, they no longer kept His commandment, nor held by the promise He had made to their fathers; but they relaxed from their fasting and praying, and from the counsel of Jared their father. And they kept on gathering together on the top of the mountain, to look upon the children of Cain, from morning until evening, and upon what they did, upon their beautiful dresses and ornaments.

17 Then the children of Cain looked up from below, and saw the children of Seth, standing in troops on the top of the mountain; and they called to them to come down to them.

18 But the children of Seth said to them from above, "We don't know the way." Then Genun, the son of Lamech, heard them say they did not know the way, and he bethought himself how he might bring them down.

19 Then Satan appeared to him by night, saying, "There is no way for them to come down from the mountain on which they dwell; but when they come to-morrow, say to them, 'Come ye to the western side of the mountain; there you will find the way of a stream of water, that comes down to the foot of the mountain, between two hills; come down that way to us.'"

20 Then when it was day, Genun blew the horns and beat the drums below the mountain, as he was wont. The children of Seth heard it, and came as they used to do.

21 Then Genun said to them from down below, "Go to the western side of the mountain, there you will find the way to come down."

22 But when the children of Seth heard these words from him, they went back into the cave to Jared, to tell him all they had heard.

23 Then when Jared heard it, he was grieved; for he knew that they would transgress his counsel.

24 After this a hundred men of the children of Seth gathered together, and said among themselves, "Come, let us go down to the children of Cain, and see what they do, and enjoy ourselves with them."

25 But when Jared heard this of the hundred men, his very soul was moved, and his heart was grieved. He then arose with great fervour, and stood in the midst of them, and adjured them by the blood of Abel the just, "Let not one of you go down from this holy and pure mountain, in which our fathers have ordered its to dwell."

26 But when Jared saw that they did not receive his words, he said unto them, "O my good and innocent and holy children, know that when once you go down from this holy mountain, God will not allow you to return again to it.”


“And enjoy ourselves with them”. The children of Cain seemed like they were having fun, it was different than living on the mountain, praying, worshipping, and fasting. So some of the children of Seth said, ‘let’s go have fun’. They probably thought they could return after a get-a-way weekend. Yahweh would not allow the people who left the Holy Mountain to contaminate the other sons of Seth. The decision to leave would be a permanent one. The Elohim had been pleased with them, calling them Children of God and angels, but now they were defiled. 


The Second Book of Adam and Eve XX:27 He again adjured them, saying, "I adjure by the death of our father Adam, and by the blood of Abel, of Seth, of Enos, of Cainan, and of Mahalaleel, to hearken to me, and not to go down from this holy mountain; for the moment you leave it, you will be reft of life and of mercy; and you shall no longer be called 'children of God,' but 'children of the devil.'"

28 But they would not hearken to his words.

29 Enoch at that time was already grown up, and in his zeal for God, be arose and said, "Hear me, O ye sons of Seth, small and great--when ye transgress the commandment of our fathers, and go down from this holy mountain--ye shall not come up hither again for ever."

30 But they rose up against Enoch, and would not hearken to his words, but went down from the Holy Mountain.

31 And when they looked at the daughters of Cain, at their beautiful figures, and at their hands and feet dyed with colour, and tattooed in ornaments on their faces, the fire of sin was kindled in them.

32 Then Satan made them look most beautiful before the sons of Seth, as he also made the sons of Seth appear of the fairest in the eyes of the daughters of Cain, so that the daughters of Cain lusted after the sons of

Seth like ravenous beasts, and the sons of Seth after the daughters of Cain, until they committed abomination with them.

33 But after they had thus fallen into this defilement, they returned by the way they had come, and tried to ascend the Holy Mountain. But they could not, because the stones of that holy mountain were of fire flashing before them, by reason of which they could not go up again.


As they descended the mountains they went from being Children of God to children of the devil. Enoch is warning them but not many are listening. Just like the flaming swords that kept the way into paradise, the stones of fire kept the children of Seth who were on the mountain safe and genetically pure. This is important to understand. The people who remained upon the Holy Mountains did not pervert their genos. This also builds a picture for us that the flood came not only because angels sinned, but also because man sinned. Men started following Satanas, and they enjoyed what they did. 


The Second Book of Adam and Eve XX:34 And God was angry with them, and repented of them because they had come down from glory, and had thereby lost or forsaken their own purity or innocence, and were fallen into the defilement of sin.


The children of Seth who were on the mountains were not part of the world, they were worshipping as if they were in heaven. They worshipped like the angels worshipped. This was a holy place and a holy people. The Shekinah  Glory, the divine presence of the Elohim, resided on the Holy Mountains. To leave the presence of the Elohim to chase after sin is defilement. However it was not only about the sins of men, but also the sins of angels that caused the destruction of the earth.  


The Second Book of Adam and Eve XX:35 Then God sent His Word to Jared, saying, "These thy children, whom thou didst call 'My children,'--behold they have transgressed My commandment, and have gone down to the abode of perdition, and of sin. Send a messenger to those that are left, that they may not go down, and be lost."

36 Then Jared wept before the Lord, and asked of Him mercy and forgiveness. But he wished that his soul might depart from his body, rather than hear these words from God about the going down of his children from the Holy Mountain.

37 But he followed God's order, and preached unto them not to go down from that holy mountain, and not to hold intercourse with the children of Cain.

38 But they heeded not his message, and would not obey his counsel.


Jared was grieved, but he followed God’s order and continued to preach even though most were not listening. However one of his heirs was listening. Noah. Enoch knows that he (Enoch) is going to be translated, so he tells everyone on the mountain that a flood is coming. 


Forgotten Books of Eden; The Second Book of Adam and Eve XXII:4 Enoch continued in his ministry before the Lord three hundred and eighty-five years, and at the end of that time he became aware through the grace of God, that God intended to remove him from the earth.

5 He then said to his son, "O my son, I know that God intends to bring the waters of the Flood upon the earth, and to destroy our creation.

6 "And ye are the last rulers over this people on this mountain; for I know that not one will be left you to beget children on this holy mountain; neither shall any one of you rule over the children of his people; neither shall any great company be left of you, on this mountain."

7 Enoch said also to them, "Watch over your souls, and hold fast by your fear of God and by your service of Him, and worship Him in upright faith, and serve Him in righteousness, innocence and judgment, in repentance and also in purity."

8 When Enoch had ended his commandments to them, God transported him from that mountain to the land of life, to the mansions of the righteous and of the chosen, the abode of Paradise of joy, in light that reaches up to heaven; light that is outside the light of this world; for it is the light of God, that fills the whole world, but which no place can contain.

9 Thus, because Enoch was in the light of God, he found himself out of the reach of death; until God would have him die.

10 Altogether, not one of our fathers or of their children, remained on that holy mountain, except those three, Methuselah, Lamech, and Noah. For all the rest went down from the mountain and fell into sin with the children of Cain. Therefore were they forbidden that mountain, and none remained on it but those three men.


Enoch says that they should “watch over your souls”, which for those people at that time this should have been concerning, that their soul would be in jeopardy. This is sad as there were no righteous children of Seth left except the families of Methuselah, Lamech, and Noah. Enoch is still not dead yet. 


Here is what will happen to Enoch and Elijah.

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2020/06/enemies-shaar-shkhem-square-enoch.html

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2021/03/chariots-and-lightning-too-late-for.html

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-thunders-speak-two-witnesses-enochs.html

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2016/08/two-witnesses-harpazo-restoring-tribes.html

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2013/07/chariots-of-fire-elijah-and-enoch.html


We see the lure of sin in our time and we recognize that we do have many people standing strong for Yahweh. Maybe not as many as we would like, but we see the righteous among us. We are not alone, together we are strong in not being led astray by Satanas. We should be doing what Seth and Jared did; warning everyone, regardless of their choices. 


Gen 6:1  And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

Gen 6:2  That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:3  And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Gen 6:4  There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Gen 6:5  And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Gen 6:6  And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Gen 6:7  And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Gen 6:8  But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.


Noah was righteous. Because of Noah’s family line, there was always someone speaking from Yahweh to the people. This is how Noah had faith. Noah’s faith came by hearing, and hearing by the rhēma of the Elohim. This is why Noah’s faith led to his righteousness. He listened to those who spoke of God. The righteous live by faith, credence, and fidelity. Josephus relates Noah’s story too. 


Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 2:2:2(60) And when Cain had travelled over many countries, he, with his wife, built a city, named Nod, which is a place so called, and there he settled his abode; where also he had children. However, he did not accept of his punishment, in order to amendment, but to increase his wickedness; for he only aimed to procure everything that was for his own bodily pleasure, though it obliged him to be injurious to his neighbors. (61) He augmented his household substance with much wealth, by rapine and violence; he excited his acquaintance to procure pleasures and spoils by robbery, and became a great leader of men into wicked courses. He also introduced a change in that way of simplicity wherein men lived before; and was the author of measures and weights. And whereas they lived innocently and generously while they knew nothing of such arts, he changed the world into cunning craftiness. (62) He first of all set boundaries about lands; he built a city, and fortified it with walls, and he compelled his family to come together to it; and called that city Enoch, after the name of his eldest son Enoch. …….(66) Nay, even while Adam was alive, it came to pass that the posterity of Cain became exceeding wicked, every one successively dying one after another more wicked than the former. They were intolerable in war, and vehement in robberies; and if anyone were slow to murder people, yet was he bold in his profligate behavior, in acting unjustly and doing injuries for gain. 

 Josephus, F., & Whiston, W. (1987). The works of Josephus: complete and unabridged (p. 31). Peabody: Hendrickson.


It is interesting that evil ignited with Cain the first born son of the adam and Eve. Cain only accepted his punishment to leave the area so that he could do what he wanted, becoming more wicked and feeding his physical lusts. Remember, Cain and Seth had sons with the same names, the context tells us who is being spoken of. Josephus continues.


Josephus, Antiquities 3:1:1. (72) Now this posterity of Seth continued to esteem God as the Lord of the universe, and to have an entire regard to virtue, for seven generations; but in process of time they were perverted, and forsook the practices of their forefathers, and did neither pay those honors to God which were appointed them, nor had they any concern to do justice towards men. But for what degree of zeal they had formerly shown for virtue, they now showed by their actions a double degree of wickedness; whereby they made God to be their enemy, (73) for many angels of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength; for the tradition is, That these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants. (74) But Noah was very uneasy at what they did; and, being displeased at their conduct, persuaded them to change their dispositions and their acts for the better;—but, seeing that they did not yield to him, but were slaves to their wicked pleasures, he was afraid they would kill him, together with his wife and children, and those they had married; so he departed out of that land. 

2. (75) Now God loved this man for his righteousness; yet he not only condemned those other men for their wickedness, but determined to destroy the whole race of mankind, and to make another race that should be pure from wickedness; and, cutting short their lives, and making their years not so many as they formerly lived, but one hundred and twenty only, he turned the dry land into sea; (76) and thus were all these men destroyed: but Noah alone was saved; for God suggested to him the following contrivance and way of escape:—(77) That he should make an ark of four stories high, three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits broad, and thirty cubits high. Accordingly he entered into that ark, and his wife and sons, and their wives; and put into it not only other provisions, to support their wants there, but also sent in with the rest of all sorts of living creatures, the male and his female, for the preservation of their kinds; and others of them by sevens. 

 Josephus, F., & Whiston, W. (1987). The works of Josephus: complete and unabridged (pp. 32–33). Peabody: Hendrickson.


Josephus notes that seven generations worshipped God. Then Seth’s children began to be led down the mountain. Noah and his family were spared because Noah listened to the words that his forefathers spoke regarding the Elohim. Noah went from faith to faith or from out of credence to fidelity, or acceptance to loyalty. Noah the righteous, lived by faith. Noah built a big boat. This shows that his faith increased from the acceptance of the words spoken to the loyalty of Yahweh’s directions. He lived his faith. 


Gen 6:9  These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Gen 6:10  And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Gen 6:11  The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

Gen 6:12  And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

Gen 6:13  And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Gen 6:14  Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.


We can imagine the doubt that others would have had. Rain? What is rain? Flood? What is a flood? We can imagine how the angels had to protect Noah and his family. It took one hundred and twenty years to build that big boat. After Methuselah’s death the animals were directed into the ark and the door was shut by the Elohim.


The Book of Jubilees was written by Moses while he was on Mt Sinai. It is also called The Little Genesis and The Apocalypse of Moses. Moses gives us further details. 


Jubilees IV:15. And in the second week of the tenth jubilee Mahalalel took unto him to wife Dînâh, the daughter of Barâkî’êl the daughter of his father's brother, and she bare him a son in the third week in the sixth year, and he called his name Jared; for in his days the angels of the Lord descended on the earth, those who are named the Watchers, that they should instruct the children of men, and that they should do judgment and uprightness on the earth. 16. And in the eleventh jubilee Jared took to himself a wife, and her name was Bâraka, the daughter of Râsûjâl, a daughter of his father's brother, in the fourth week of this jubilee, and she bare him a son in the fifth week, in the fourth year of the jubilee, and he called his name Enoch. 17. And he was the first among men that are born on earth who learnt writing and knowledge and wisdom and who wrote down the signs of heaven according to the order of their months in a book, that men might know the seasons of the years according to the order of their separate months. 18. And he was the first to write a testimony, and he testified to the sons of men among the generations of the earth, and recounted the weeks of the jubilees, and made known to them the days of the years, and set in order the months and recounted the Sabbaths of the years as we made (them) known to him. 19. And what was and what will be he saw in a vision of his sleep, as it will happen to the children of men throughout their generations until the day of judgment; he saw and understood everything, and wrote his testimony, and placed the testimony on earth for all the children of men and for their generations. 20. And in the twelfth jubilee, in the seventh week thereof, he took to himself a wife, and her name was Ednî, the daughter of Dânêl, the daughter of his father's brother, and in the sixth year in this week she bare him a son and he called his name Methuselah. 21. And he was moreover with the angels of God these six jubilees of years, and they showed him everything which is on earth and in the heavens, the rule of the sun, and he wrote down everything. 22. And he testified to the Watchers, who had sinned with the daughters of men; for these had begun to unite themselves, so as to be defiled, with the daughters of men, and Enoch testified against (them) all. 23. And he was taken from amongst the children of men, and we conducted him into the Garden of Eden in majesty and honour, and behold there he writeth down the condemnation and judgment of the world, and all the wickedness of the children of men. 24. And on account of it (God) brought the waters of the flood upon all the land of Eden; for there he was set as a sign and that he should testify against all the children of men, that he should recount all the deeds of the generations until the day of condemnation.


As we know, the mission of the watchers was a failure. Instead of teaching men uprightness, they became unrighteous themselves. They then led men astray. Enoch wrote books for the future generations which Noah had brought with him on the ark. Enoch was taken off the earth and did not see death yet. We know that Enoch will come back to earth with Elijah when the saints are harpazo’d for the first half of the tribulation. Enoch’s words testified to Noah, and they testify to us today. Moses continues. 


Jubilees V:1 And it came to pass when the children of men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the angels of God saw them on a certain year of this jubilee, that they were beautiful to look upon; and they took themselves wives of all whom they chose, and they bare unto them sons and they were giants. 2. And lawlessness increased on the earth and all flesh corrupted its way, alike men and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walketh on the earth-all of them corrupted their ways and their orders, and they began to devour each other, and lawlessness increased on the earth and every imagination of the thoughts of all men (was) thus evil continually. 3. And God looked upon the earth, and behold it was corrupt, and all flesh had corrupted its orders, and all that were upon the earth had wrought all manner of evil before His eyes. 4. And He said: "I shall destroy man and all flesh upon the face of the earth which I have created." 5. But Noah found grace before the eyes of the Lord. 6. And against the angels whom He had sent upon the earth, He was exceedingly wroth, and He gave commandment to root them out of all their dominion, and He bade us to bind them in the depths of the earth, and behold they are bound in the midst of them, and are (kept) separate. 7. And against their sons went forth a command from before His face that they should be smitten with the sword, and be removed from under heaven. 8. And He said "Thy spirit will not always abide on man; for they also are flesh and their days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 9. And He sent His sword into their midst that each should slay his neighbour, and they began to slay each other till they all fell by the sword and were destroyed from the earth. 10. And their fathers were witnesses (of their destruction), and after this they were bound in the depths of the earth for ever, until the day of the great condemnation  when judgment is executed on all those who have corrupted their ways and their works before the Lord. 11. And He †destroyed† all from their places, and there †was† not left one of them whom He judged not according to all their wickedness. 12. And He †made† for all His works a new and righteous nature, so that they should not sin in their whole nature for ever, but should be all righteous each in his kind alway. 13. And the judgment of all is ordained and written on the heavenly tables in righteousness--even (the judgment of) all who depart from the path which is ordained for them to walk in; and if they walk not therein judgment is written down for every creature and for every kind. 14. And there is nothing in heaven or on earth, or in light or in darkness, or in Sheol or in the depth, or in the place of darkness (which is not judged); and all their judgments are ordained and written and engraved. 15. In regard to all He will judge, the great according to his greatness, and the small according to his smallness, and each according to his way. 16. And He is not one who will regard the person (of any), nor is He one who will receive gifts, if He saith that He will execute judgment on each: if one gave everything that is on the earth, He will not regard the gifts or the person (of any), nor accept anything at his hands, for He is a righteous judge. [17. And of the children of Israel it hath been written and ordained: If they turn to Him in righteousness, He will forgive all their transgressions and pardon all their sins. 18. It is written and ordained that He will show mercy to all who turn from all their guilt once each year.]  19. And as for all those who corrupted their ways and their thoughts before the flood, no man's person was accepted save that of Noah alone; for his person was accepted in behalf of his sons, whom (God) saved from the waters of the flood on his account; for his heart was righteous in all his ways, according as it was commanded regarding him, and he had not departed from aught that was ordained for him. 20. And the Lord said that He would destroy everything which was upon the earth, both men and cattle, and beasts, and fowls of the air, and that which moveth on the earth. 


Moses says that Yahweh is a righteous judge. “The judgment of all is ordained and written on the heavenly tables in righteousness—“. Judgment in righteousness. Jesus will judge the world in righteousness. Those who corrupted their ways before the flood were not accepted. Yet Noah and his family were saved due to his righteousness. We can see the extreme evil that was on the earth, not only from the heirs of Cain but from the heirs of the Nephilim. It is no wonder that after the trauma of the flood and the rebuilding of humanity on earth that Noah drank some fermented grapes. 


Noah did not depart from anything that he was ordained to do. Have we departed from what we are ordained to do? Have we made an excuse because the times we live in are hard? The righteous are saved, spared, and not appointed to wrath. Yet that does not mean that we should kick up our feet and relax. Everyone is ordained to walk a certain path. That path is between you and Yahweh. It is not necessarily the same path that someone else is on. You are you, and you and Yahweh determine your path. Noah did not depart from what he was ordained to do. We must have the same resolve to do the things that we are ordained to do. 


While Noah lived in an extremely difficult time, he had an amazing forefather to learn from, Enoch. When the days are extremely evil, there is an extreme grace from Yahweh. There are people speaking for Yahweh on the earth. We can spend time with Yahweh to determine the path that we are ordained for. Then in our very present evil day, we can help to rescue others. 


Sir 44:16  Enoch pleased the Lord, and was translated, being an example of repentance to all generations.

Sir 44:17  Noah was found perfect and righteous; in the time of wrath he was taken in exchange for the world; therefore was he left as a remnant unto the earth, when the flood came.

Sir 44:18  An everlasting covenant was made with him, that all flesh should perish no more by the flood.


The world will not perish by flood, but instead by fire. We can see that even when a small portion of the earth (Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zebiom) became evil, they were destroyed by fire, although Lot and his daughters lived. We live in a different age. The age in which people can be saved by grace. Even though evil is increasing, grace is increasing too. Jesus tells us of a time at the end of the age that people will be burned with fire. 


Mat 13:40  As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.


The word translated world here is really “eon” (aiōn) or “age”. The good seed are the children of the kingdom, the tares are the children of the wicked one. This is exactly what we saw in the antediluvian age, the children of Seth are the children of God, and Cains children are the children of Satanas. 


Mat 13:41  The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

Mat 13:42  And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Mat 13:43  Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


The gathering of the tares are done by angels. They will be thrown in a furnace of fire. Then, after the children of Satanas are cast into the fire, the righteous shine in the kingdom of the Father. The righteous have a different destiny. Why do people want to confuse the righteous with the unrighteous? All we have to do is walk our ordained path. 


2Pe 3:7  But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


2Pe 3:10  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:11  Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

2Pe 3:12  Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?


When does fire come? On the Day of the Lord and on the Day of God. The Day of the Lord is at the end of the tribulation. The Day of God is after the white throne judgment, when the new heaven and new earth come down out of heaven. The Day of the Lord is at the start of the seven thousandth year, the Day of God is at the start of the eight thousandth year. What do we need in order to be a part of the new heaven and new earth? Faith and righteousness, because without faith it is impossible to please Him. 


Heb 11:5  By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Heb 11:6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Heb 11:7  By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.


Enoch did not see death yet and was translated because his witness pleased the Elohim. Enoch told people about the Elohim. Enoch explained the plans of the Elohim. Enoch shared his experiences, learning about the universe. Seth, Jared, and Enoch saved humanity by teaching Noah and his family. 


Noah’s faith moved from acceptance to loyalty so he built an ark. Noah is the heir of righteousness which is by faith. Once we understand that the righteousness of the Elohim is uncovered from out of acceptance into loyalty, and that we live by loyalty to the Elohim, we can then see why the righteous are not appointed to wrath. To put it simply, Yahweh is looking for people who accept Him and are loyal to him. This is what makes believers righteous. It is not about the works we do, it is about our acceptance of Him and our loyalty to Him. Noah and his family saved humanity. Humanity had been polluted by the fallen Watchers and by Satanas, so that an overwhelming majority of antediluvian people did not even acknowledge the Elohim. Our own ordained path is the path that we walk. Noah built a big boat. Enoch taught everyone the knowledge of the Elohim. What is it that we who accept Yahweh and are loyal to Yahweh are to do? We need to find that out on our own.


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https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2021/07/little-faith-law-of-faith-from-credence.html

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2021/07/so-simple-judging-in-righteousness.html

https://musingsofawinsomeheart.blogspot.com/2021/08/he-will-judge-world-in-righteousness.html

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Sunday, November 10, 2019

Curses; Calling Down Doom; To Curse or Not To Curse; Reversing Curses and Flightless Birds

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The subject of curses and cursing is a confusing one. We see David and Paul both cursing others. We see Yahweh Elohim cursing also. But then Paul tells us not to curse. Most of the confusion is due to our own translations from the Greek. We have several words for curse in the Greek which have been translated as one word in English. We can curse ourselves. We can open ourselves up to allow curses in. We can curse others. We can invoke spiritual power to curse others. We can petition God to curse our enemies. David tells us something interesting; he tells us that the one who loves cursing is filled with curses. He also tells us that his curse is reversed. Solomon tells us that some curses do not fly, but others do.  

Solomon tells us about curses and compares them to birds, but not any birds. Curses can travel. But curses have to have an opening to take hold. 

Proverbs 26:2 G5618 As G3732 birds G4070.3 [3spread out to fly G2532 1and G4765.1 2sparrows], G3779 so G685 [2oath G3152 1a vain] G3756 shall not G1904 come unto G3762 one thing

685 LSJ Gloss:ἀρά a prayer
Dodson:ἀρά a prayer or prayer for evil, a curse, imprecation a prayer; more commonly: a prayer for evil, a curse, imprecation.
TBESG:ἀρά curse
G:N-F
ἀρά, -ᾶς, ἡ  [in LXX chiefly for אָלָה ]; 
__1. a prayer (MM, see word). 
__2. (as in Homer) a curse, malediction: Rom.3:14 (LXX),†
(AS)
Thayer:
1) a prayer, a supplication 
2) an imprecation, curse, malediction

ἀρά 
ara ar-ah' Probably from G142; properly prayer (as lifted to Heaven), that is, (by implication) imprecation KJV Usage: curse.

1904 LSJ Gloss:ἐπέρχομαι ibo
Dodson:ἐπέρχομαι I approach, overtake, attack
I come to, arrive, come on, come upon, attack.
Thayer:
1) to come to arrive 
1a) of time, come on, be at hand, be future 
2) to come upon, overtake, one 
2a) of sleep 
2b) of disease 
2c) of calamities 
2d) of the Holy Spirit, descending and operating in one 
2e) of an enemy attacking one

ἐπέρχομαι 
eperchomai ep-er'-khom-ahee From G1909 and G2064; to supervene, that is, arrive, occur, impend, attack, (figuratively) influence KJV Usage: come (in, upon).

If someone curses another person without an opening in the other person’s life, the curse will not come upon them. Ara is an “evil prayer”. Vain means “empty”. This could read: “Even as hens and ostriches have wings, in this manner empty curses shall not attack anyone.” Some birds have wings but do not fly; such as ostriches. Some birds fly low and short distances like hens. The godless curse is like a bird with wings that does not fly. The godless curse won’t fly and attack “no one”, oudeis.

Solomon tells us that a winged creature of heaven will take someone’s cursings, kataraomai, and report those words. 

Ecclesiastes 10:20 G2532 And G1065 indeed G1722 in G4893 your conscience G1473   G935 [2a king G3361 1you should not curse]; G2672   G2532 and G1722 in G5009 the closets G2846 of your bedrooms G1473   G3361 you should not curse G2672   G4145 a rich man . G3754 For G4071 a winged creature G3588   G3772 of heaven G667 shall carry G3588   G5456 your voice, G1473   G2532 and G3588 the G2192 one having G3588 the G4420 wings G518 shall report G3056 your word. G1473   

2672 LSJ Gloss:καταράομαι to call down curses upon, imprecate upon
Dodson:καταράομαι I curse.
TBESG:καταράομαι to curse
G:V
κατ-αράομαι, -ώμαι depon. 
(< κατάρα), [in LXX chiefly for קָלַל pi. ;] 
to curse: with accusative, Mrk.11:21; opp. to εὐλογέω,
Refs
Luk.6:26, Rom.12:14, Jas.3:9
; pass. pf. ptcp., accursed, under a curse (see M, Pr., 221): Mat.25:41.†
(AS)
Thayer:
1) to curse, doom, imprecate evil upon

καταράομαι 
kataraomai kat-ar-ah'-om-ahee Middle voice from G2671; to execrate; by analogy to doom KJV Usage: curse.

This word for “curse” is kataraomai. Kataraomai is a verb, the noun form is katara, meaning “downward evil prayer”.  Katara is a compound word from kata, and ara. Ara is a noun. Kata is a “calling down”, while ara is “evil prayer”. The difference is in the invocation. Calling down is different than calling out. Calling down is invoking a spirit being to carry forth the destruction. Katara is calling on spirit beings to do evil. Ara is the individual praying for evil. When a person ara, prays a curse, the curse is like a flightless bird, but when a person katara, calls down a curse, a winged creature takes it and delivers it.  

A curse as a noun is a thing, it has some type of substance. A curse as a verb is an action, it has movement. The winged creature of heaven will carry off the sounds and the one possessing the wings announces the logos, words. Solomon is speaking to his people and suggesting that that the people should not curse kings and the wealthy. No matter the people in charge, there will always be those who will send curses. Solomon was probably thinking of his father David, realizing that even though David was overwhelmingly loved, there were people cursing him. This is an insight for us. David gave us further understanding, speaking of a man who likes to call down curses. 

Psalm 109:17 G2532 And G25 he loved G2671 a curse, G2532 and G2240 it shall come G1473 to him; G2532 and G3756 he did not G2309 want G2129 a blessing, G2532 and G3118.2 it shall be far G575 from G1473 him. 
  18 G2532 And G1746 he put on G2671 the curse G5613 as G2440 a cloak, G2532 and G1525 it entered G5616 as G5204 water G1519 into G3588   G1458.3 his insides, G1473   G2532 and G5616 as G1637 oil G1722 in G3588   G3747 his bones. G1473   
  
David is speaking of the mouth of the sinner and the mouth of the deceitful one. David says they spoke against him. David says their words encircled him and waged war against him without charge. Now we can understand what Solomon was saying when he said not to curse the king. David goes on regarding these sinners and then prays against these people. David says that these sinners and deceitful people loved to call down curses, katara, and it shall hēkō, “arrive or be present” to him. David is saying that the very curses that the sinners called down for David will return to the sinners. Even though katara is invoking evil spirits to send the curses, the curses are sent back to the one cursing. 

Next David says the sinner is enduō katara, “clothed calling down curses” like a coat. He wears it. He covers himself by calling down curses and it came in like water into his bowels and as olive oil in his bones. David then says may it be like a coat and a belt. David wants the sinner to be covered and abound with curses. Calling down curses is invoking an evil spirit and the evil spirit clothes the curser and enters into his insides. In other words, by doing this the person becomes a house for evil spirits and demons, and it fills him up and covers him over. David wants this to be the condition that the person lives with all the time. That is a harsh reality for the ones cursing. 

We see that there are people who curse others and are filled with their curses. We see that David suggests these curses come back to the one cursing. But what causes a curse to come upon someone? What is the entrance point? Sin.

Proverbs 20:1-2 (KJV) 
1  Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. 
2  The fear of a king is as the roaring of a lion: whoso provoketh him to anger sinneth against his own soul. 

The one who provokes a king which is like provoking a lion, adds many sins against himself. Sinning against one’s own soul seems like suicide, why would one want to harm themselves? Jesus’ words are interesting here. 

John 5:14 (KJV) 
14  Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. 

Jesus healed a man on the Sabbath. He told him to pick up his mat and walk. The man did just that. The man walked to the temple and the Jews scolded him for carrying his mat. When Jesus saw the man in the temple he told him not to sin anymore or something worse could come upon him. Reverse that statement. ‘If you do not sin, nothing worse will happen to you.’ We could say, live holy.

Sin opens the door to allowing the devil to attack us. If we want to continue in sin, as compared to unintentionally sinning once, we become a servant to sin. We are enslaved by our sin. People who worship idols are slaves to the idol, serving more to receive a result. People who are bound by lust continue in feeding their lust to get a better “high”.

John 8:34 (KJV) 
34  Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 

As Jesus was trying to instruct the Jews regarding sins, they claimed they were not slaves to anyone, yet Jesus told them they were slaves to sin. He then told them that the servant does not abide in the house forever like a son. Therefore don’t be enslaved by sin. Don’t become a servant of the devil.

If we behave badly and sin, then we we allow the devil to accuse us. We open ourselves to his punishment. Jesus does cleanse us from our sin, our sin will not keep us out of heaven. Jesus has covered us by his blood, but the devil can punish us if we habitually sin. If a saved person habitually sins, he/she is accused by the devil. If a non-saved person habitually sins, he/she is allowed to continue until he/she wants to make Jesus their Lord.   If we do not habitually sin but come under attack from the devil, then we have the right to invoke the blood of Jesus. 

Coming back to curses, the serpent was accursed. To be accursed is different than calling down evil prayer from the earth. It is sending down evil prayer from above. 

Gen 3:14  And G2532  [3said G20361 the LORD  G2962 G35882God] G2316  to the G3588  serpent, G3789  Because G3754  you did G4160  this, G3778  accursed G1944are you G1473  from G575  all G3956  the G3588  cattle, G2934  and G2532  from G575  all G3956  the G3588  wild beasts G2342  of the onesG3588  upon G1909  the G3588  earth. G1093  Upon G1909 G3588  your breast G4738 G1473  and G2532 G3588  belly G2836  you shall go, G4198  and G2532  earth G1093  you shall eat G2068  all G3956  the G3588  days G2250 G3588  of your life. G2222 G1473

G1944
ἐπικατάρατος epikataratos
Thayer Definition:
1) accursed, execrable, exposed to divine vengeance, lying under God’s curse
Part of Speech: adjective
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1909 and a derivative of G2672

G1909
ἐπί epi
Thayer Definition:
1) upon, on, at, by, before
2) of position, on, at, by, over, against
3) to, over, on, at, across, against
Part of Speech: preposition
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: a root

G2672
καταράομαι kataraomai
Thayer Definition:
1) to curse, doom, imprecate evil upon
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: middle voice from G2671

Epikataratos means “upon”, “on”, or “over”, “calling down doom”. The serpent is under God’s curse. Yahweh Elohim made the adam to rule and control the world, but the devil inspired the satan to sin and when he did he became the slave to the devil. The satan then seduced Eve.  

The Secrets of Enoch 31:1 Adam has life on earth, and I created a garden in Eden in the east, that he should observe the testament and keep the command. 2   I made the heavens open to him, that he should see the angels singing the song of victory, and the gloomless light. 3   And he was continuously in paradise, and the devil understood that I wanted to create another world, because Adam was lord on earth, to rule and control it. 4  The devil is the evil spirit of the lower places, as a fugitive he made Sotona from the heavens as his name was Satanail (Satan), thus he became different from the angels, (but his nature) did not change (his) intelligence as far as (his) understanding of righteous and sinful (things). 5   And he understood his condemnation and the sin which he had sinned before, therefore he conceived thought against Adam, in such form he entered and seduced Eva (Eve), but did not touch Adam. 6    But I cursed ignorance, but what I had blessed previously, those I did not curse, I cursed not man, nor the earth, nor other creatures, but man’s evil fruit, and his works.

Anonime. The Book of the Secrets of Enoch . Axioma. Kindle Edition.

Notice in this understanding from Enoch, the devil made the satan to sin. The satan became a slave to sin. The satan then inspired a spirit in a serpent to seduce Eve. They did not touch the adam. Now as Enoch points out, man’s works are accursed. 

Gen 3:17  And toG3588 G1161  Adam G*  he said, G2036  Because G3754  you hearkened to G191  the G3588  voice G5456 G3588  of your wife, G1135 G1473  and G2532  ate G2068  from G575  the G3588  tree G3586  of which G3739  I gave charge G1781  to you, saying, G1473  This G3778  alone G3441you are not G3361  to eat G2068  from G575  it -- G1473and you ate; G2068  accursed G1944is the G3588  land G1093  among G1722 G3588  your works; G2041 G1473  in G1722  distresses G3077  you will eat G2068  it G1473  all G3956  the G3588  days G2250 G3588  of your life. G2222 G1473

Epikataratos, “accursed is the land in the works”. Man will eat the fruits from the ground, but it will be through sweat, distress, and toil. The spiritual dynamic of this curse is not from man via evil spirits to man, it is Yahweh Elohim to man, or evil being, or the works of man. Cain was accursed, the Lord cursed Cain. 

Gen 4:10  And G2532the LORD said, G2036 G2962  What G5100  did you do? G4160The voice G5456  of the blood G129 G3588  of your brother G80 G1473  yells G994  to G4314  me G1473  from G1537  the G3588  ground. G1093
Gen 4:11  And G2532  now, G3568  accursed G1944are you G1473  from G575  the G3588  earth G1093  which G3739  gaped wide G5462.2 G3588  her mouth G4750 G1473  to take G1209  the G3588  blood G129 G3588  of your brother G80 G1473  from G1537 G3588  your hand. G5495 G1473

The blood of Abel still cries out from the ground. Cain was imprecated upon by Yahweh. What exactly happened?

Jasher 1:15 And it was at the expiration of a few years, that they brought a first-fruit offering to the Lord, and Cain brought from the fruit of the ground, and Abel brought from the firstlings of his flock from the fat thereof, and God turned and inclined to Abel and his offering, and a fire came down from the Lord from heaven and consumed it. 16 And to Cain and his offering the Lord did not turn, and he did not incline to it, for he had brought from the inferior fruit of the ground before the Lord, and Cain was jealous against his brother Abel on account of this, and he sought an opportunity to kill him.

Lumpkin, Joseph. Enoch, Jubilees, Jasher: Banned from the Bible (p. 178). Fifth Estate. Kindle Edition.

Cain did not bring the best unblemished first fruits. He did not divide his offering correctly. Cain was also angry that Abel’s flocks ate his vegetables. However, Cain ate Abel’s animals and wore their skins. 

Jasher 1:21 Cain said to his brother Abel, Certainly if I kill you this day, who will require your blood from me? 22 And Abel answered Cain, saying, Certainly God who has made us in the earth, he will avenge my cause, and he will require my blood from you should you kill me, for the Lord is the judge and arbiter, and it is he who will repay man according to his evil, and the wicked man according to the wickedness that he may do on earth. 23 And now, if you should kill me here, certainly God knows your secret views, and will judge you for the evil which you did declare to do to me this day. 24 When Cain heard the words which Abel his brother had spoken, the anger of Cain was set ablaze against his brother Abel for declaring this thing. 25 Cain hurried and rose up, and took the iron part of his plowing instrument, with which he suddenly struck his brother and he killed him, and Cain spilt the blood of his brother Abel on the earth, and the blood of Abel streamed on the earth before the flock.

Lumpkin, Joseph. Enoch, Jubilees, Jasher: Banned from the Bible (p. 179). Fifth Estate. Kindle Edition.

Abel was murdered. Before Jesus came, died, and took back the keys to death and hades, there was a place among hades for those who had been murdered. Enoch tells us of this place. 

Enoch 22:1 And I went out to another place west where there was a mountain and hard rock. 2 And there was in it four hollow places, deep and wide and very smooth. How smooth are the hollow places and looked deep and dark. 3 Then Raphael answered, one of the holy angels who was with me, and said to me: 'These hollow places have been created for this very purpose, that the spirits of the souls of the dead should be gathered here, that all the souls of the children of men should brought together here. And these places have been made to receive them until the day of their judgment and until the period appointed, until the great judgment comes on them.’ 

There are four places for the spirits of the souls of the dead. These places are appointed until the great white throne judgment or until the period appointed. There was an appointed time for the righteous to leave Abraham’s Bay. 

Enoch 22:4 I saw the spirit of a dead man, and his voice went out to heaven and made petitions. 5 And I asked Raphael the angel who was with me, and I said to him: 'This spirit which petitions, 6 Whose is it, whose voice goes up and petitions heaven?' 7 And he answered me saying: 'This is the spirit which went out from Abel, whom his brother Cain slew, and he makes his suit against him until his offspring is destroyed from the face of the earth, and his offspring are annihilated from among the children of men.’  

Abel did not have offspring. Cain’s offspring eventually died in the flood. 

Enoch 22:8 Then I asked, regarding all the hollow places: 'Why is one separated from the other?' 9 And he answered me and said to me: 'These three have been made that the spirits of the dead might be separated.  Divisions have been made for the spirits of the righteous, in which there is the bright spring of water. 

The place Jesus told us about, Abraham’s Bay or Creek is the place for the righteous before Jesus took them to paradise. 

Enoch 22:10 And one for sinners when they die and are buried in the earth and judgment has not been executed on them in their lifetime. 11 Here their spirits shall be set apart in this great pain until the great day of judgment and punishment and torment of those who curse forever and retribution for their spirits. 12 There He shall bind them forever…

The spirits of sinners wait until the great white throne judgment to be judged. They are in great pain and I’m sure they would rather be on the earth during the tribulation than in hades.  

Enoch 22:12…And such a division has been made for the spirits of those who make their petitions, who make disclosures concerning their destruction, when they were slain in the days of the sinners. 13 Such has been made for the spirits of men who were not righteous but sinners, who were complete in transgression, and of the transgressors they shall be companions, but their spirits shall not be destroyed in the day of judgment nor shall they be raised from here.' 14 Then I blessed the Lord of glory and said: 'Blessed be my Lord, the Lord of righteousness, who rules forever.'

Lumpkin, Joseph. Enoch, Jubilees, Jasher: Banned from the Bible (pp. 31-33). Fifth Estate. Kindle Edition. 

There is a division for the spirits of those who make petitions. They are praying for justice because they had been murdered. They were slain in the days of sinners. These are the days of sinners. Sin allows curses to harm us. By the adam, sin came into the world. Then death came into the world due to sin. Now notice what Paul says in Romans. 

Romans 5:12-13 (KJV) 
12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 
13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 

Sin is not charged when there is no law. Up until the time Moses gave us the law, there was no sin charged to people. Death however still reigned from Adam to Moses. The law made the terms clear, life or death, blessings or curses. But the law came so that sin might abound. 

Romans 5:20-21 (KJV) 
20  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 
21  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. 

If sin abounds, so does grace. Grace reigns through righteousness unto eternal life. Now the law we live under is the law of love. We love the Almighty, Most High, Eternal, Father with all our hearts, soul, mind, and strength, and love our neighbors as we love ourselves. 

Moses gave this warning to the people, that if they did not listen to Yahweh Elohim they would essentially curse themselves. 

Deuteronomy 28:15 (KJV) 
15  But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 

Downward imprecations would come upon Israel for their own disobedience. Downward curses from evil spiritual beings are waiting for an opportunity to cause doom and destruction. When all is said and done, and all these blessings and curses have come upon the people, Yahweh will bring them back to the land of their fathers. 

Deuteronomy 30:1-5 (KJV) 
1  And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee, 
2  And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; 
3  That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee. 
4  If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee: 
5  And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. 

Has this happened yet? No. They will be brought back from the outermost parts of heaven and earth. Jesus told us the same thing, his angels will gather the elect from the four corners of heaven to live in the land of their fathers, and at that time Jesus will be King. 

Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats at the end of his millennial kingdom, Revelation 20. The criteria that Jesus is using to separate the sheep from the goats is their behaviors towards others on the earth. Feeding, watering, and clothing the poor, and taking care of strangers, visiting the sick and those in prison. This is the criteria for the non believers in Jesus as Lord and Messiah. 

Mat 25:41  Then G5119  he will say G2046  also G2532  to the ones G3588  on G1537his left, G2176  Go G4198  from G575  me! G1473  O ones G3588  being cursed G2672  into G1519  the G3588  [2fire G4442 G35881eternal], G166  the one G3588  having been prepared G2090  for the G3588  devil G1228  and G2532 G3588  his angels. G32 G1473

The people who rejected Jesus will be judged as sheep or goats. they have been waiting in one of the compartments of hades until this time. The final white throne judgment will see all the nations before the Lord as he sits on his throne. The goats have cursed themselves. How? They didn’t take care of other people, they only cared for themselves. Notice, eternal fire is ready for the devil and his angels. Why? Because they cursed themselves. They rebelled and they brought down curses from Yahweh upon themselves. 

There is another word katanathematizō  which comes from anathema, “putting up as an offering”. In this case Peter put himself under a curse or bound himself to destruction. He did this intentionally. 

Mat 26:74  Then G5119  he began G756  to bind by a curseG2653  and G2532  swear by an oath G3660  that, G3754  I have not known G3756 G1492  the G3588  man. G444  And G2532  immediately G2112  a rooster G220  called out. G5455

Mar 14:71  And he G3588 G1161  began G756  to devote to consumption G332  and G2532  to swear by an oath G3660  that, G3754  I have not known G3756 G1492 G3588  this man G444 G3778  of whom G3739  you speak. G3004

G2653
καταναθεματίζω katanathematizō
Thayer Definition:
1) to curse
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G2596 (intensive) and G332

G332
ἀναθεματίζω anathematizō
Thayer Definition:
1) to devote to destruction
2) to declare one’s self liable to the severest divine penalties
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G331
Strong's Concordance
anathematizó: to declare anathema, devote to destruction
Original Word: ἀναθεματίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: anathematizó
Phonetic Spelling: (an-ath-em-at-id'-zo)
Definition: to declare anathema, devote to destruction
Usage: I curse, invoke curses, devote to destruction.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 332 anathematízō – literally, anathematize, put under a divine curse (anathema); "to devote to destruction, declare or invoke anathema" (Abbott-Smith). See 331 (anathema).

There were some Jews who also put themselves under a curse. They did this until they could kill Paul. In this instance it is a ceremonial act which included fasting. They are attempting to call on spiritual help.

Act 23:12  And becoming G1096 G1161  day, G2250  [4having made G41601some G51002of the G35883Jews] G*  a confederacy, G4963  devoted G332  themselves, G1438  saying G3004  to neither G3383  eat G2068  nor G3383  drink G4095  until G2193 G3739  they should kill G615 G3588  Paul. G*

If they honestly held to the curse they bound themselves to, they would have died of starvation and dehydration. They probably did not. However, the weight of this act of fasting and self denial carried spiritual power. Evil spirit beings were being activated through these Jews to assist in killing Paul. As we know, Paul was not murdered by them. 

Revelation tells us that curses will end in the new heaven and new earth. 

Rev 22:3  And G2532  every G3956  great curse G2652  shall not be G3756 G1510.8.3  any longer; G2089  and G2532  the G3588  throne G2362 G3588  of God G2316  and G2532  of the G3588  lamb G721  [2in G17223her G14731will be]; G1510.8.3  and G2532 G3588  his bondmen G1401 G1473  shall serve G3000  to him. G1473

G2652
κατανάθεμα katanathema
Thayer Definition:
1) curse
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G2596 (intensive) and G331
HELPS Word-studies
2652 katanáthema (from 2596 /katá, "according to, down," intensifying 331 /anáthema, "a curse") – properly, an anathema; an oath-curse which "devotes something to destruction" (literally, to take it down).

G331
ἀνάθεμα anathema
Thayer Definition:
1) a thing set up or laid by in order to be kept
1a) specifically, an offering resulting from a vow, which after being consecrated to a god was hung upon the walls or columns of the temple, or put in some other conspicuous place
2) a thing devoted to God without hope of being redeemed, and if an animal, to be slain; therefore a person or thing doomed to destruction
2a) a curse
2b) a man accursed, devoted to the direst of woes
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G394
Strong's Concordance
anathema: that which is laid up, i.e. a votive offering
Original Word: ἀνάθεμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: anathema
Phonetic Spelling: (an-ath'-em-ah)
Definition: that which is laid up, a votive offering
Usage: a votive offering, a thing devoted to God; a curse, the thing cursed.
HELPS Word-studies
331 anáthema (from 303 /aná, "up" concluding a process, which intensifies 5087 /títhēmi, "to place") – properly, place up, referring to something pledged (given up) to destruction; a divine curse/ban ("accursed"); an "oath-curse."
[331 (anáthema) is the root of the English word, "anathema."]

There will no longer be people calling down curses in the new Jerusalem. There will no longer be evil spirit beings to carry out curses. 

Interestingly, Paul curses people who do not love the Lord Jesus Christ. 

1Co 16:22  If anyone G1536  is not G3756  fond of G5368  the G3588  Lord G2962  Jesus G*  Christ, G5547  be G1510.5  anathema! G331  Maranatha. G3134

If we understand the weight of this curse, it is upon all those people who do not love the Lord Jesus Christ. We see the effects of this curse in our societies where people act mentally and emotionally compromised towards those who do love Jesus Christ our Lord. Isn’t this why people who do not love Jesus seem to become taken over by demonic spirits when they encounter a son or daughter of the Most High God? Paul’s words are strong, and still binding. Paul also invokes a curse on those distorting the gospel. 

Gal 1:8  But G235  even G2532  if G1437  we G1473  or G2228  an angel G32  out of G1537  heaven G3772  should announce good news G2097  to you G1473  beyond G3844  which G3739  good news we announced to you, G2097 G1473  let him be anathema! G331 G1510.5
Gal 1:9  As G5613  we described beforehand, G4280  and G2532  just now G737  again G3825  I say, G3004  If anyone G1536  announces good news to you G1473 G2097  beyond G3844  what G3739  you took to yourselves, G3880  let him be anathema! G331 G1510.5

Paul dictates, let people and angels be cursed or given up to destruction if they announce a different gospel. It seems strange that Paul would curse, or doom for destruction, those who do not love the Lord Jesus Christ and those who preach a different gospel, because he also said not to curse people

Rom 12:14  Bless G2127  the ones G3588  persecuting G1377  you! G1473  bless G2127  and G2532  do not G3361curse! G2672

We see the difference in the words used and can now determine what Paul means. Kataraomai is calling down a curse with spiritual influence, compared to Paul himself calling doom and destruction upon others. Paul is not invoking the help of a spiritual being when cursing people who do not love Jesus. He is speaking the harsh reality of their own destiny. What Paul is saying is that those who do not love Jesus Christ or speak a false gospel, are offered to the Almighty, Most High, Eternal, Living Father, and are not redeemed, but are doomed for destruction. It would be like saying to someone that you cannot help them and you are giving them to God to be judged. If they have rejected Jesus and the gospel, they have put themselves under their own curse. Paul is not adding any spiritual burden to what they have already put on themselves. 


If someone loves cursing as David suggested, that person is filled with his own curses.The person cursing an innocent victim, will have his curses come back on him. As Solomon suggested, flying creatures in the heavens will bring a curse to the intended victim. Solomon also suggested evil prayers are like flightless birds, and they will not hurt anyone. Holiness is our key to resisting curses, living a sinless life. However if we reject the command that Jesus gave us, loving God and loving our neighbor, and loving the disciples, we put ourselves under our own curses as the Israelites did when they rejected Mosaic law. Yet one day the devil and his angels will be sent to eternal fire, along with the goats, and the new Jerusalem will be free from anyone calling down an oath devoting others to destruction.